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Maggs
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Icon 1 posted November 24, 2005 10:34      Profile for Maggs     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hey Everyone, SUCCESS!!!!

I backed up a friends' PC using NTBackup on the Windows XP Home Value Add folder on the XP Home Ed CD.

I ran the backup on his 10 GB of data. It said it completed successfully. I seperately ran a backup also using NTBackup on his Ipod dir and it restored flawlessly.

Backup 1 = data + music (My Music dir / Itunes)
Backup 2 = music (Just the My Music dir)

Backup 2 restored properly, backup 1 is where I am having problems.

I checked the permissions on the file, and they are ok. I also used Steve Gibson's SpinRite on the Drive but it takes way too long on a 40 GB USB Drive

The backup fails after the 300th file, does anyone have any suggestions as to any good software to recover the data.

Mind you I've Googled this to eternity, and fixed some problems.

Thanks in Advance.

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Icon 1 posted November 24, 2005 11:57      Profile for maximile   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Good for you! [Smile]

Umm... is there a problem with that?

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quote:
Originally posted by maximile:
Good for you! [Smile]

Umm... is there a problem with that?

That it involves Steve Gibson? Him and DJB I don't quite know what to make of.
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My cat's breath smells like cat food.
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Icon 1 posted November 25, 2005 12:29      Profile for garlicguy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
My cat's breath smells like cat food.

The farts, Newf, the farts! Tell us what your cat's farts smell like!!!

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Icon 1 posted November 25, 2005 16:50      Profile for drunkennewfiemidget     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by garlicguy:
quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
My cat's breath smells like cat food.

The farts, Newf, the farts! Tell us what your cat's farts smell like!!!
I don't actually have a cat -- I just figured I'd something that made as much sense as the original post.
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Icon 1 posted November 27, 2005 18:51      Profile for Maggs     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
The file stops after 300 files load. What is the 300th file in a Windows install.... oh wise Google.
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Icon 1 posted November 27, 2005 19:45      Profile for The Famous Druid     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
The iPod uses the FAT32 file system (when formatted for the PC) which has a file size limit of 4 GB (see the MS page) so it's not surprising your 10 GB backup has problems.

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Icon 1 posted November 27, 2005 20:56      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Sorry TFD, but you're wrong. The 4 GB limit is on 'file size.' That is, no single file in a FAT32 partition may be >4GB (less one byte) - this is documented on the page you link. According to that page, a FAT32 partition cannot exceed 32 GB.

Man...I remember the days when I couldn't even *dream* of a 32 GB hard drive - and now I have 120 GB in my server, 40 in my Mini, and half a GB in my pocket (USB key).

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quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
The iPod uses the FAT32 file system (when formatted for the PC) which has a file size limit of 4 GB (see the MS page) so it's not surprising your 10 GB backup has problems.

TFD: Are you sure you're not thinking of FAT16? That one has 4 gig volume limit, IIRC.
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quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
Sorry TFD, but you're wrong. The 4 GB limit is on 'file size.' That is, no single file in a FAT32 partition may be >4GB (less one byte) -

Yes, that's what I said, the file size limit is 4G.
IIRC, NTBackup creates One Big File containing the entire backup set, so if you're backing up 10G of data to a fat32 partition, you've got a problem.

Dp004i: fat16 had a volume size limit of 4G, fat32 has a file size limit of 4G

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quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
Sorry TFD, but you're wrong. The 4 GB limit is on 'file size.' That is, no single file in a FAT32 partition may be >4GB (less one byte) -

Yes, that's what I said, the file size limit is 4G.
IIRC, NTBackup creates One Big File containing the entire backup set, so if you're backing up 10G of data to a fat32 partition, you've got a problem.

Dp004i: fat16 had a volume size limit of 4G, fat32 has a file size limit of 4G

Oh yeah....forgot about that little detail of NT Backup. I was thinking more along the lines of 'backup to device' not 'to file.' Doh! (But the former would render the iPod less than delightful, and probably not even be possible.)

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Icon 1 posted November 28, 2005 06:44      Profile for Maggs     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Here's what I used on the drive so far.

Nero BackIUp to 3 DVDs
Backup to different HD partition on my 2 PCs
PC Inspector Software

The backup is in NTBackup on a USB 2.0 Drive running on 1.1 hardware...

The first 300 files seem corrupt. I got his Ipod files off a second backup on the same drive I made of JUST his Ipod files.

So here's the name convention:

AnthonyBackup.bkf <~~~ has the corrupt data
IpodBackup.bkf <~~~~ Fully restored

I should have backed up using Ghost. I did a backup with Ghost on My PCs and no problems.

Lesson learned NEVER use NTBackup again.

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