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maximile

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Icon 1 posted April 26, 2005 16:19      Profile for maximile   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Maybe you guys can help me.

The Summer is coming, and I want to do something. I've always liked the idea of making an amateur film. I've done a few shorts, with a small group of friends, and I was planning to do something bigger this time. My problem is this: I have no idea about time management and that sort of thing.

I tend to completely underestimate the magnitude of any task I am planning, and of course this usually ends up in it not being finished. So I'd appreciate it if any of you would tell me whether you think the following feasible.

Between now and then I'd write a short screenplay, and start to look for actors (between five and ten - numbers, not ages). Then I'd borrow a camera (I already have one) and film over seven days in the Summer, and start editing.

I'm fairly confident about some of that. I like writing, and have strong ideas about the way I want to do the film. I can do the editing to a standard that will at least please me.

Put like that, maybe it doesn't sound so bad. "Finding actors" sounds a bit more special than it really is; this'd be a studenty sort of affair, probably made from friends of friends... you know the sort of thing. And as far as I can tell there'd be very little money involved, which takes the pressure off.

The trouble is, when you start involving people that you don't know so well, you can't just back out at any time. So I want to be sure that they can have a DVD each of something to take with them at the end. And already I am falling into the trap of writing really difficult things into the script; have a look at this:

XAN is falling, unconscious, clothes fluttering, hair flying upwards. Camera falls with her, gradually rotating around. No music, wind rushing SFX. After 10 seconds, Xan opens eyes, looks around. Looks down, slight panic, but resigned to situation.
Cut to ground-based shot, Xan out of frame. She falls to the ground and lands on her side, fast, hard enough that it is obvious that she should not survive.
Cut to close-up on Xan, small crater around her. She lies there for a few seconds then gets up, slightly dazed. Looks around, small triumphant smile, and walks off, with start of music.


See? Already I need bluescreening and stuff, and that's just the opening shot.

I suppose that I'll have a screenplay to be proud of anyway. Am I worrying too much about this? Is it better to just get stuck in, and deal with problems as I come to them?

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks! [Smile]

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Icon 1 posted April 26, 2005 19:05      Profile for quantumfluff     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
You're way overplanning. Most amateur films can be shot on consumer quality digital video with just a director, a camera person and two or three actors. Let them improvise.
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Icon 1 posted April 26, 2005 19:20      Profile for Xanthine     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by maximile:
XAN is falling, unconscious, clothes fluttering, hair flying upwards. Camera falls with her, gradually rotating around. No music, wind rushing SFX. After 10 seconds, Xan opens eyes, looks around. Looks down, slight panic, but resigned to situation.
Cut to ground-based shot, Xan out of frame. She falls to the ground and lands on her side, fast, hard enough that it is obvious that she should not survive.
Cut to close-up on Xan, small crater around her. She lies there for a few seconds then gets up, slightly dazed. Looks around, small triumphant smile, and walks off, with start of music.


Who are you and how did you find out about that little incident??

Except I had a helmet on. And I landed on my back and slid downslope, coming to rest on top of my brother. And there was no crater. Just a very scared brother. [Razz]

Okay, vanity aside (I'm assuming you just picked an unfortunately random name and an event that was just as unfortunately similar to a mountaineering accident I was in a couple years ago), that does seem a bit ambitious. I suppose you just need a blue wall as a blue screen but that means someone sacrifices a wall. Maybe just shoot what looks like Xan going off the dge of something (I'm sure you can do this with the clever use of a rock, a crash pad, and the right camera angle), go black, wind rushing, and then Xan landing in the crater (sickening thud, suspenseful pause, then she gets up and strolls away), which I'm sure could be accomplished via some good acting and editing. You can use the black for a few lines of opening credits.

Look at some older movies. You can be dramatic without splashy effects.

And now I'm very curious about the rest of this film.

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quote:
And now I'm very curious about the rest of this film.
As am I, Just make sure you put it up online for us to view once you're done.

I've written 2 screenplays in my day, one destroyed(HD Crash), second one sucked majorly so I threw it away. And Im in the process of writing one now that's bound to be extrordinarily disturbing if I ever get some actors once Im done. I even invested in the equipment (Camera etc.) before I had it finished (which I still dont, almost done though). So pretty soon I'll be in the same boat as you.

Dont worry, if you're not wanting a43 million dollar movie here, a moderate camera (mine's broadcast quality), and a moderately fast computer'll do the trick. Bluescreening really isnt all that difficult. So just tackle things as they come. You'll be fine, and GC will get to see an awesome movie. [Big Grin]

Wolfman OUT

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quote:
Originally posted by maximile:
I need bluescreening and stuff, and that's just the opening shot.

Hi [Smile] . First off, what a good idea for a way to spend the summer.

Secondly, I really, really doubt bluescreening will be possible - especially not if you've got no prior experience and v. little budget or equipment. Keep it as simple as possible. The best thing to do is have a really great story - without that, no matter how good the film looks, it won't be worth watching (see the corpus of Jerry Bruckheimer for further information).

Some of my best friends are really involved in film-making, and as such, have compiled a couple of training videos (follow the link on the left that says 'training films') for novice film-makers, which might be of use to you.

Good luck!

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Icon 1 posted April 27, 2005 10:50      Profile for maximile   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
Who are you and how did you find out about that little incident??

Heh, sorry about that. Any connection was accidental, I assure you. The names are far from fixed; I don't know where I got 'Xan' from.

Thanks for the advice - exactly what I was looking for. That's my problem, you see. I read about bluescreening, and assume that I can do it with just a blue sheet, a few lights and After Effects. It's hard to decide whether I should just go straight in, and risk messing up and wasting time, or plan beforehand and risk deciding not to do it at all, when it might have been possible to do something great.

Of course, I plan to make the story as good as I can first. And I of course I'll post a link to a copy here when it's finished.

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