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Icon 11 posted October 30, 2004 01:47      Profile for GenSec     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I have this problem: I found a text editor control that has keyboard shortcuts for letters with accents (very useful if you don't have a special keyboard driver installed). I want to use it in an application I'm writing; many of my customers would appreciate this feature.

But I found out that there is a similar feature in Microsoft Word, even some shortcuts are the same. Do you think this feature might be copyrighted? I've heard of similar cases and I don't know if it is possible or how to find this out.

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Icon 1 posted October 30, 2004 05:30      Profile for Tut-an-Geek   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I think you mean patented
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Icon 1 posted October 30, 2004 13:25      Profile for GenSec     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tut-an-Geek:
I think you mean patented

I meant generally "legally protected from being implemented elsewhere without permission," whatever protection technique used - copyright, patent, thugs with baseball bats...

Well, I haven't found a relevant patent in the database so far, just a lot of reduced keyboard interfaces and Chinese/Japanese/... text entry techniques.

The problem is, this feature comes with MS Word. It can be configured however you like, but what comes out of the box resembles closely what is available in that control I want to use. Can this be infringement of intellectual property?

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Icon 1 posted October 30, 2004 13:41      Profile for Tut-an-Geek   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I doubt it is, since the same thing is found in many operating systems and applications.
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Icon 1 posted November 26, 2004 01:33      Profile for GenSec     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tut-an-Geek:
I doubt it is, since the same thing is found in many operating systems and applications.

Well, here's some food for thought: Microsoft has recently applied for a patent for "is not" operator in BASIC-like programming languages:

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220040230959%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20040230959&RS=DN/200 40230959

It's only a patent application, and there are some false claims, eg. that Delphi is BASIC-derived (it's Pascal-derived), but that makes you think what and how they have patented in the past.

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quote:
Originally posted by GenSec:
quote:
Originally posted by Tut-an-Geek:
I doubt it is, since the same thing is found in many operating systems and applications.

Well, here's some food for thought: Microsoft has recently applied for a patent for "is not" operator in BASIC-like programming languages:

[url= http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220040230959%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20040230959&RS=DN/200 40230959]http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220040230959%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20040230959& RS=DN/200 40230959[/url]

It's only a patent application, and there are some false claims, eg. that Delphi is BASIC-derived (it's Pascal-derived), but that makes you think what and how they have patented in the past.

*goes through all his perl code and replaces all if (!) with unless ()*

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