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Ashitaka

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Icon 1 posted July 05, 2010 00:49      Profile for Ashitaka     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
XKCD often uses google hit counts in thier cartoons.


Today I was trying to convince my wife via email that "without a hitch" is the correct phrasing and it is not "Without a glitch", "without a clitch" or "without a snitch".

So as evidence I was going to use google hits for each of those phrasings to convicne her.

unfortunately without using quotes, Without a clitch has by far the most hits.

Google hits;

wihtout quotes

15'700'000 für without a clitch
5'090'000 für without a glitch
1'790'000 für without a hitch

with quotes

1'310'000 für "without a hitch"
573'000 für "without a glitch"
146 für "without a clitch"

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"Without a stitch" - 407,000
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"without a pitch" - About 1,800,000 results

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Just point her to the urban dictionary's definition of clitch and suggest that maybe that's not what she wants to say.

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You know what's really sad? I've never seen "clitch" before, but just from the look and sound guessed it could be subverted into discussions of female anatomy. Then I hit Steen's link.

I think this means I need a good long break from civilization so I can cleanse myself. A "three weeks in the utter wilderness" kind of break. I won't be getting one any time soon, but clearly I need one.

Anyway, as for as your argument with your wife goes, why don't you just play the "English is my mother tongue" card? Works for me, though we often end up then engaging in a discussion of why it's one way and not the other. For example, why do we say "quickly" but not "fastly"? That sort of conversation goes nowhere fast because at the end of the day, there's no logical rhyme or reason to English grammar but it is good for a laugh.

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quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
I think this means I need a good long break from civilization so I can cleanse myself. A "three weeks in the utter wilderness" kind of break. I won't be getting one any time soon, but clearly I need one.

Please, take me with you and leave me there! [tired]
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quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
For example, why do we say "quickly" but not "fastly"? That sort of conversation goes nowhere fast because at the end of the day, there's no logical rhyme or reason to English grammar but it is good for a laugh.

Quite logical really, but you do have to know a bit of background...

'Fast' originally meant 'securely attached', later it took on a secondary meaning of 'soon/immediately', which then morphed into the current usage, denoting speed.

Today, the original meaning is falling into disuse, surviving mostly in phrases like 'stand fast' (which must be really confusing for people learning English) and 'fastened', but for a long time both meanings were in common use, so 'fastly' would have been ambiguous.

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quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
Anyway, as for as your argument with your wife goes, why don't you just play the "English is my mother tongue" card? Works for me, though we often end up then engaging in a discussion of why it's one way and not the other. For example, why do we say "quickly" but not "fastly"? That sort of conversation goes nowhere fast because at the end of the day, there's no logical rhyme or reason to English grammar but it is good for a laugh.

Because she'll say, "noooooo, I swear I heard it the other way before. You must be mistaken or you must say it wrong in Indiana. you're not perfect you know."


But I find it cute. (which is why I posted it) I suppose my relationship is fine as long and these quirks stay cute and do not become peeves.

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quote:
Originally posted by TFD:
'Fast' originally meant 'securely attached', later it took on a secondary meaning of 'soon/immediately', which then morphed into the current usage, denoting speed.

If I may expand on TFD's comment on Xanthine's compare/contrast of quick/fast...

"quick" originally meant 'alive' or 'full of life' - giving us usages such as 'Quicksilver' for mercury, the only metal that can flow and spread and seep at room temperature.

Also, there was 'to quicken', meaning to show a spurt in growth, or a re-birth from an apparently dead state. From this we get the name 'quickthorn' for what is usually termed 'blackthorn', meaning Prunus Spinosa - which is unusual in that the flowers are usually seen before the leaves. Surely a sign of the life-force running ahead of itself unchecked?? Hence this over-abundance of life-force leads to the name 'quickthorn'.

The modern meaning of quick is to simply mean 'done with speed" or with s snse of urgency

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So, Ash, what did you say to convince her? Did you link to this definition?
quote:
without a hitch
Fig. with no problem(s). Everything went off without a hitch. We hoped the job would go off without a hitch.
See also: hitch, without

McGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs. © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.



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