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TheMoMan
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Icon 1 posted February 03, 2013 10:06      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
In the past we have discussed flaring at oil and gas wells.

Eco Watch

So this CLEAN fuel that is supposed to reduce emissions is creating more of them out in the field.

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quantumfluff
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Icon 1 posted February 12, 2013 00:09      Profile for quantumfluff     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
You're comparing apples to oranges. Burning gas is cleaner than burning oil, but that's not what this is about. Just follow the money...
  • Oil fields were built to pump oil. They have no way to sell the gas so they flare it.
  • We could build gas pipelines to the fields but that would cost billions that the producers can't (won't) afford.
  • The government could pick up the tab, which would create jobs in states that have oil. Yippie for them!
  • States without oil, but can frak out gas, won't give a cent towards job creation in the oil producing states.
The current situation is the obvious outcome when you don't have a national energy policy.
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Icon 1 posted February 12, 2013 21:18      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by quantumfluff:

The current situation is the obvious outcome when you don't have a national energy policy.

s/energy/anything/, and you cover a lot of nonsense.

Still, on energy, I read somewhere on NYT that a number of ethanol producers are shutting down due to limited crops. There's still many such producers, but a part of me hopes more would follow suit and we could just stop this miserable practice. Turning edible food into fuel is ridiculously wasteful, and providing tax credits towards such producers (who are likely turning profits) is absurd. Brazil's sugarcane solution makes more sense given the smaller footprint involved, but I wonder if more good could be done simply reducing consumption by encouraging more efficient vehicles. The differing blend of fuels all across the country universally hinders different markets, raising prices for just about everyone. (Those of us whose states require an ethanol blend can't buy gas from other markets, and if the refineries go on the fritz, the prices go ever higher.)

Still, this being the United *States* of America, I don't see this changing anytime soon. (Education & police tend to be run by the gov't in many other countries I've been do, giving folks a common standard and reducing bureaucracy. [This is an ironic twist on the Republic gripe about the Dept. of Education - imagine just having that instead of countless Boards of Ed across the country. [Ahh...Kansas!!!])

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TheMoMan
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Icon 1 posted February 13, 2013 05:43      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
A very long time ago as Internal combustion engines were being developed the fuel was Butyraldehyde (Butanal). This liquid could be extracted from field grass decay, swamp grass and plant alga. No we have to go chase Ethanol and or Methanol two alcohols that are expensive to extract and usually from food crops.

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