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Pope Benedict, in a new encyclical released on Friday, said atheism was responsible for some of the "greatest forms of cruelty and violations of justice" in history.

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL3016839520071130

I'd LOL if I wasn't so busy rolling my eyes. [Roll Eyes]

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From TFA:
[Pope Benedict] said: "A world marked by so much injustice, innocent suffering, and cynicism of power cannot be the work of a good God. A God with responsibility for such a world would not be a just God, much less a good God."

So... since that's the kind of world we've got, God must be neither just nor good... in fact, he'd have to be kind of an uncaring dick.

I couldn't agree more.

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History has proven wrong ideologies such as Marxism which say humans had to establish social justice because God did not exist, the Pope wrote.
That's not a good example- Communism as practiced never came particularly close to Marx's ideals. They weren't even very good at being communists.

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The Pope seemed to be addressing the fresh interest in atheism in the developed world with phrases such as: "Let us put it very simply: man needs God, otherwise he remains without hope."
Funny, that, I've been a lot happier since I gave up looking for a religion that isn't steeped in stupidity and useless dogma. Sure, the pope looks very pretty in his bedazzled robes and penis hat, but that doesn't make him right.

I did rather like his environmental stance, though. I'm perfectly willing to side with Catholics whenever we agree on issues of the environment or social justice. I do wish we agreed more often on the social justice end of things. I'm tired of watching that church maintain policies that result in treating women as if they were nothing but walking incubators. Condoms are a damned good idea.

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I think it is time for religion's to just admit that there are some people who just don't know what is out there or who just don't believe. And that they shouldn't be critizing people and using them as scapegoat's.

My parents took me to church and things as a child and allowed me to make my own decision on what I believe. I've made my decision (atheism with a hint of catholic) and I would like it if no one challenged my views just as I don't critisize anyone else's religion.

Just the same I'm not the guy who has created some of the worlds most greatest forms of cruelty. While I'm pretty sure the Catholic church was involved in WW2 someway or another just as I'm pretty sure the've killed more people then I have.

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quote:
The Pope seemed to be addressing the fresh interest in atheism in the developed world with phrases such as: "Let us put it very simply: man needs God, otherwise he remains without hope."
That would be number 4

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quote:
Originally posted by Snaggy:
Pope Benedict, in a new encyclical released on Friday, said atheism was responsible for some of the "greatest forms of cruelty and violations of justice" in history.

He's right. Atheism is responsible for some. Religion is responsible for the other 98%.

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Well, if we're going to be pointing out logical fallacies, then I must admit that my criticism of the papal wardrobe was a clear and unnecessary ad hominem attack. I was just working to live up to the angry atheist stereotype, because sometimes it's fun to be a stereotype.

I hope that, someday, atheists will be responsible for most of the crimes committed on Earth (because that'll mean we're the majority) but until that happens, the pope really has no business heaping the bloody carcass of history at our feet. There just aren't enough of us for such characterizations to be true. Those who supported Hitler were surely christians and he'd have had no power without supporters. Hitler, himself, was a new-age spiritualist, guru-chasing twit, not a proper atheist. Much more like that flower of life dolt.

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quote:
November 30, 2007 13:10
He's right. Atheism is responsible for some. Religion is responsible for the other 98%.

[Confused]
So if a group of people commit some of the "greatest forms of cruelty and violations of justice," and they're not Christians, or Buddhists, or Hindus, or Wiccans, or Jews ... then "that other major religion" (from the Mideast) must be to blame.

Just an observation..........     [ohwell]

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Um, what does Islam (zOMG!! I said it! We're all gonna die!) have to do with the Pope's attitude toward atheists?

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Okay... Here (wiki) . Not all religions are always peaceful, just like not all members of a religion are violent. Making mass generalizations like
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Pope Benedict, in a new encyclical released on Friday, said atheism was responsible for some of the "greatest forms of cruelty and violations of justice" in history.

and like this
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So if a group of people commit some of the "greatest forms of cruelty and violations of justice," and they're not Christians, or Buddhists, or Hindus, or Wiccans, or Jews ... then "that other major religion" (from the Mideast) must be to blame.
are to blame for most of the religious misunderstandings we have today.

So could we all just please stop stereotyping everyone else, and maybe just think before we say something, because honestly all this back and forth gets pretty damned old.

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Alright, I'm going to have to throw in with SpazGirl (I've run out of angry... [Eek!] ) and say that, unlike Prof. Dawkins, I am perfectly willing to accept that it's highly likely that the history of the world would have looked pretty much the same without religion. We do, after all, have nationalism, and that's just as good as- and even more sinister than- religion. My personal attack on the pope was merely a reflection of his own lack of reason. We cannot attribute the avarice of mankind to a particular set of beliefs- it's been the same throughout history, in Rome under pagans and in Rome under christians, In North America when populated by indigenous peoples and in North America populated by us immigrants. We're all nasty, vile people, regardless of our faith or lack thereof. Laying blame at the feet of conflicting belief systems only complicates an already untennable situation.

Also, Xanthine is right, since when is this thread about Islam? That's just as bad as what the pope did, ASM.

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Since my last post, blame on humans in general has been mentioned, in which case my "observation" has been properly addressed.

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November 30, 2007 19:17
Um, what does ____ have to do with the Pope's attitude toward atheists?

I did not quote the Pope.

The statement that I quoted is either "true" or "false" (generally speaking), and the statement implies a specific conclusion. The logical conclusion is NOT "the Pope is responsible for 98% of all cruelty."
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Lunatic "Philosopher": All Religions are Evil........     Islam is a Religion.
      Therefore Islam is Good and everybody else is Evil.
 
Note: If you can't see the Philosopher's logic flaw(s) then you're probably immune to education.

 
Given:
  • People with Religion commit atrocities
  • People without Religion commit atrocities
Using the Scientific Method on the above statements:
  • One should conclude that religion is not "The Cause" of atrocities
        (and maybe "the species" should be investigated as the cause instead).
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Mr 65816 offers confirmation of The Explainers ´Great Satan' theory...

When Mr Vic writes
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He's right. Atheism is responsible for some. Religion is responsible for the other 98%.

 
Mr 65816 reads
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Originally posted by ASM65816:
All Religions are Evil........     Islam is a Religion.
      Therefore Islam is Good and everybody else is Evil.

and responds to what he thinks he´s seen.
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quote:
Originally posted by ASM65816:

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November 30, 2007 19:17
Um, what does ____ have to do with the Pope's attitude toward atheists?

I did not quote the Pope.

Neither did I.

However, it is interesting that you immediately assumed that general frustration about theist dogma was somehow an apology for Islam (zOMG!!! I said the I-word! Again!!! zOMOG!! We're all gonna die!!!!!!!!!!). Get a grip. It's not all about Islam.

The Pope, in his encyclical, tried to lay the world's problems and the atrocities of history squarely on the feet of atheists. In doing so, he basically wrote all the crimes committed in the name of God (doesn't matter whose, though in the case of Islam, Judaism, and Christianity it's the same deity anyways) out of history. This is wrong.

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WW II, Warsaw...
A young Polish lad is running from a young SS soldier. He runs into a dead end street; the Nazi is about to shoot the Pole, but suddenly he hears a voice from heaven:
-Don't you dare to shoot that man!
-Why not? - the Nazi asked.
-Because he will be the Pope!
-And what do I get for not shooting him?
-You... You will be his successor.

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My argument is:
  • Self-serving sociopaths are the source of "greatest forms of cruelty and violations of justice."

My next assertion is that self-serving sociopaths lie as a means to an end.

A tyrant that grabs power does it for personal gain, regardless of the excuse given:
  • "The ancestors of our nation were oppressed."
  • "You are denied what you rightfully deserve; follow me and you'll get everything that should be yours."
  • "I'm doing this for god."

"Self-serving" is not "serving god"/"serving religion." Therefore, religion is not the cause of "the problem."

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They weren't even very good at being communists.

To repeat myself using politics instead of religion:
  • The social ideal was not the cause of atrocities, self-serving sociopaths with the lie of serving a social ideal were the cause.


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Hi All _______________________ The Pope has drawn a conclusion from his study of the scriptures, His does not agree with my conculusion following said study.

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quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
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Originally posted by ASM65816:

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November 30, 2007 19:17
Um, what does ____ have to do with the Pope's attitude toward atheists?

I did not quote the Pope.

Neither did I.

However, it is interesting that you immediately assumed that general frustration about theist dogma was somehow an apology for Islam

Ah, once again ASM offers a 'response' with no discernable connection to what the original posters actually said.

There have been several attempts to explain this, some suspect he's a troll-o-matic perl script, others prefer the 'Great Satan' theory, then of course there's my own 'Deranged Trolling Git' theory.

Well, just because I'm feeling whimsical today, I'll add another to the mix. It's a thinly disguised rip-off of Explainers 'Great Satan' theory, with a little of my own theory on the trouble between men and women thrown in.
I call it the 'Psycho Ex-Girlfriend' theory.

In essence, it states that ASM is like my psycho ex-girlfriend, he talks in code most of the time, and assumes everyone else does too.

For example...

Random GCer writes: "I disagree with what The Pope said"
ASM sees: decode("I disagree with what The Pope said") = "Jihad! Jidah! Death to the Great Satan! Oh, and by the way, your arse looks really big in that dress"
ASM thinks: "Your support for militant Islam is unjustified in this case, and my arse does not look big!"
ASM Writes: encode("Your support for militant Islam is unjustified in this case, and my arse does not look big!") = "China Smoke-too-much Russia Luxury Yacht Iran f'tang f'tang France olé biscuit-barrel Islam World War II"
We see: "China Smoke-too-much Russia Luxury Yacht Iran f'tang f'tang France olé biscuit-barrel Islam World War II"
We think: WTF?????

Now as any man knows, when this situation arises there's no point trying to reason with your other half, things will only get worse. The only sensible course of action is to apologize immediately, then kiss and make up.

So...

ASM honey, I'm sorry. Can we kiss and make up now?

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If ASM65816 were unreasonable and un-topical 100% of the time, I'd stand behind everyone who mocks him/her. But since the offensive behavior isn't 100%, I'm gonna have to have some mixed feelings.

The point ASM was making was valid, if clumsy, in this case and deserves real discussion. I'm not just saying that because we agree that people will be assholes regardless of their faith. While it is true that alluding to Islam, even indirectly, was bizarre in this case, it may have made sense to the poster. The reasoning makes sense to me now that it's been explained.

It's a matter of enlightened self-interest for me to defend people's rights to be socially awkward.

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The Famous Druid wrote:
ASM honey, I'm sorry. Can we kiss and make up now?

No, TFD.. I'm afraid your arse really does look too big in that dress. Hit the stairmaster for a few weeks and try again and maybe you'll be purty enough to kiss.

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quote:
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No, TFD.. I'm afraid your arse really does look too big in that dress.

Well I think I look pretty damn hawt in that outfit, although I must admit it makes my arse look very big.

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quote:
Originally posted by ScholasticSpastic:
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History has proven wrong ideologies such as Marxism which say humans had to establish social justice because God did not exist, the Pope wrote.
That's not a good example- Communism as practiced never came particularly close to Marx's ideals. They weren't even very good at being communists.

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The Pope seemed to be addressing the fresh interest in atheism in the developed world with phrases such as: "Let us put it very simply: man needs God, otherwise he remains without hope."
Funny, that, I've been a lot happier since I gave up looking for a religion that isn't steeped in stupidity and useless dogma. Sure, the pope looks very pretty in his bedazzled robes and penis hat, but that doesn't make him right.

I did rather like his environmental stance, though. I'm perfectly willing to side with Catholics whenever we agree on issues of the environment or social justice. I do wish we agreed more often on the social justice end of things. I'm tired of watching that church maintain policies that result in treating women as if they were nothing but walking incubators. Condoms are a damned good idea.

Hey, everybody, guess what? I'm an angry atheist. How ya' doin? [Cool]

I'm new to this forum, but yet i just couldn't help myself. In many of ways you atheists' are quite right. But yet religion is suppost to promote peace and happiness exc... but yet theres nothing but WAR in the name of religion. Now adays though it's more about politics and government affairs, as if they can just be paid off to say this and that. This pope that we have now isn't even from the Pope blood line. Off point. As a christian (knowledgable in many religions)i do believe in a god and i do not believe in the way that he is represented. I don't even know if i'm in the same catogory as to what yall are talking about.
Beside the Bible does have some good points if you know what they mean? BIBLE is only;Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth.

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quote:
Originally posted by motionless_SEAsaw85:
I'm new to this forum, but yet i just couldn't help myself. In many of ways you atheists' are quite right. But yet religion is suppost to promote peace and happiness exc... but yet theres nothing but WAR in the name of religion. Now adays though it's more about politics and government affairs, as if they can just be paid off to say this and that. This pope that we have now isn't even from the Pope blood line. Off point. As a christian (knowledgable in many religions)i do believe in a god and i do not believe in the way that he is represented. I don't even know if i'm in the same catogory as to what yall are talking about.
Beside the Bible does have some good points if you know what they mean? BIBLE is only;Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth.

I'm not going to get into an argument about biblical efficacy here, but have you read the whole thing? The good bits are more than balanced by really evil bits, even in the NT, which is claimed by many christians to be free of the brutal sadism that seems to permeate the OT. There's a reason that many atheists make a point of encouraging christians to read the bible and learn about the book's history.

The wars and political dealings can be justified by passages in the bible- heck, almost anything can be biblically justified. That's why I scoff at claims that the bible is a source for cultural ethics in the Western world.

Even so, I'm not about to say that you're wrong to be a christian or to read the bible (you have read it, right?). I'll not even claim that religion is the root of all evil as has been done by certain prominent and much angrier atheists than myself.

We are monkeys with guns. People will die.

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quote:
Originally posted by ScholasticSpastic:
There's a reason that many atheists make a point of encouraging christians to read the bible and learn about the book's history.

But it's so much more fun when they don't

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