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Wolfman
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Icon 1 posted April 05, 2005 10:32      Profile for Wolfman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
So I was at the library, and I see this huge stack of still shrink wrapped copies of Windows 95. I thought well they're free I'll take like 10 and sell them on ebay. I get home open one up, and there's no CD inside. It's just the "Introducing Windows 95" booklet thing, and the "Certificate of Authenticity", NO CD!! If anybody has any clue what I can do with a bunch of CD-less 95 licenses, PLEASE let me know.

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Cap'n Vic

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Icon 1 posted April 05, 2005 11:07      Profile for Cap'n Vic     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Arse wipe.

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Ballchinnian
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uh, you can wipe your arse with em...
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Xanthine

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Icon 1 posted April 05, 2005 13:06      Profile for Xanthine     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Sell them on e-bay?

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drunkennewfiemidget
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Icon 1 posted April 05, 2005 13:08      Profile for drunkennewfiemidget     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
You mean they're worth money on eBay? I just threw away the only legitimate Windows 98 I had that someone gave to me once I turned them to Linux. I meant to throw it out earlier, but found it amidst my moving.
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CommanderShroom
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Icon 1 posted April 05, 2005 13:26      Profile for CommanderShroom     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Wolfman:
If anybody has any clue what I can do with a bunch of CD-less 95 licenses, PLEASE let me know.

Origami?

Seriously they are worthless. If you had the serial key along with the rest of the packaging they might have been useful a while back with the refund thay were doing a few months back. But as far as I know that is over and done with. SO... SOL.

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Cap'n Vic

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quote:
Originally posted by Ballchinnian:
uh, you can wipe your arse with em...

Maybe I do.....

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Rhonwyyn

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Icon 1 posted April 05, 2005 14:55      Profile for Rhonwyyn   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Find a non-profit group that repairs old computers and gives or resells them to disadvantaged people in your country or overseas. Sometimes those computers are old enough that they run Win95. In that case, the manuals and certificates may be helpful.

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CommanderShroom
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Icon 1 posted April 05, 2005 15:24      Profile for CommanderShroom     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
Find a non-profit group that repairs old computers and gives or resells them to disadvantaged people in your country or overseas. Sometimes those computers are old enough that they run Win95. In that case, the manuals may be helpful.

Hey Rhonnie,

I take it you haven't had a chance to look through one of those "manuals." Those little guys aren't even worth turning into kindling.

[Wink]

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Icon 1 posted April 05, 2005 15:38      Profile for Rhonwyyn   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Then maybe we have to revert back to the original suggestion: Make like the Amish and use the pages as toilet paper. [Razz]

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Icon 1 posted April 05, 2005 16:05      Profile for MacManKrisK     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
No one has said anything about the certificates of authenticity!!! Those little pieces of paper are what is actually worth money. That is, those certificates are certifyable lincenses to run Win95. Legally, you can acquire the software any way you wish (even download it over kazaa), and you'll be all good (legally, anyway) if you have one of those certificates for each computer you're using it on. In that case, donating those to a not-for-profit could be a wise choice.

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CommanderShroom
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quote:
Originally posted by MacManKrisK:
No one has said anything about the certificates of authenticity!!!

MMKK,

I could be wrong but when M$ was doing the rebate bit, they wanted the numbers not the certificates. I n my eyes that means that to M$ those pieces of paper were useless.

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Wolfman
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Icon 1 posted April 07, 2005 15:32      Profile for Wolfman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
MacManKrisK, So could I just make like 10 copies of my Windows 95 disc, and sell it with the licenses? they're going for near 10 bucks each on ebay, really seems a waste to not profit from someones misfortune of having to use win95.

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Icon 1 posted April 07, 2005 17:36      Profile for csk     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
If they are OEM licenses, technically, you are out of luck because they can only be used with the machines that they were supplied with. If they aren't, you might have a legal chance of selling them (IANAL, etc)

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dragonman97

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Um...in my opinion, it's illegal, or at the very least, sketchy to sell them. You don't have the whole package (i.e. w/CD), and most importantly, you don't know if the licenses are still in use anywhere. IMHO, it was irresponsible for the library to put them out there in the first place - they should have cut off the COA first if they were trying to offer a guide to people. I may not like M$, but I do try and play by their rules, seeing as it's still their software and product. The contracts that accompany may be legally binding, and I don't have any wish to get into 'difficulties' with them. I will not support piracy in any way, shape or form - I use open source software...and I extend this to any consulting I do - I will not install anything that I do not know to be legitimately licensed.

/me has a ton of Windows NT Workstation 4.0 OEM discs, and is wondering how to safely/appropriately dispose of them... (I might consider just keying them [label side, of course])

Meanwhile, on the last point, I'm keeping my fingers crossed about this - It'd be very nice if that really goes somewhere, and offers a legal alternative for the full boat. I might want to have such an option around for running certain pieces of software (such as data recovery tools) which don't currently work under WINE. If I ever have to use it for a consulting gig, I might take out the Windows Server 2003 180-day eval disc that I've got in a drawer somewhere. [Wink] *That* is totally legal for me to use. [Big Grin] It's complete overkill, but totally legal.

...So sayeth the dragon posting from FF on his Mini. [Wink]

Oh, speaking of consulting and the Mini - I just used it this past weekend as a drop in SAN box for data recovery prior to a machine wipe. Mmm...nothing like a mix of Knoppix and a Mac mini to fix a corrupt Win98 machine. [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
If I ever have to use it for a consulting gig, I might take out the Windows Server 2003 180-day eval disc that I've got in a drawer somewhere. [Wink] *That* is totally legal for me to use. [Big Grin] It's complete overkill, but totally legal.

Ack, you've got a 180 day eval version? Damnit, ours are only 10 days or someting. Do you have any idea how annoying it is reinstalling test machines purely because the eval ran out?

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quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
Meanwhile, on the last point, I'm keeping my fingers crossed about this - It'd be very nice if that really goes somewhere, and offers a legal alternative for the full boat.

Actually, in the last year that project has gone from a barely working kernel to a kernel, graphical interface, WINE-like (or better) degree of interoperatability with Windows software, halfway TCP/IP stack, actual hardware support, and a few FOSS ports. So it's going somewhere, for the moment at least.
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quote:
Originally posted by csk:
If they are OEM licenses, technically, you are out of luck because they can only be used with the machines that they were supplied with. If they aren't, you might have a legal chance of selling them (IANAL, etc)

Teehee... he said anal. *gasp* *laughter*

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