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A silent tectonic event, so powerful it has shifted southern Vancouver Island out to sea, but so subtle nobody has felt a thing, is slowly unfolding on the West Coast.

"Southern Vancouver Island is sort of sliding towards the west right now. We're moving towards Japan," said John Cassidy, a seismologist with Natural Resource Canada at the Pacific Geoscience Centre near Sidney, B.C. "It's a very small amount. We've moved about three millimetres to the west over the past couple of days."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050914.wxtremor14/BNStory/National/

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Wow! And you don't even have to pack! [Big Grin]

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I just hope my parents and sister are at the house if the Big One hits and not downtown.

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There's something similar going on in New Zealand.

If this is Mother Earth's way of gently relieving the pressure, it could be a good thing.

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Here in the UK we're tilting up and down by a couple of inches each day depending where you are as the weight of the tides press down on each end over the day.

So if you're *really* succeptible to motion sickness, the UK is probably not a great holiday destination for you [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by Snaggy:
"Southern Vancouver Island is sort of sliding towards the west right now. We're moving towards Japan," said John Cassidy, a seismologist with Natural Resource Canada at the Pacific Geoscience Centre near Sidney, B.C. "It's a very small amount. We've moved about three millimetres to the west over the past couple of days."

Cool! Let me know when you'll get here, I'll have some drinks and snacks ready. [Big Grin]
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I couldn't resist running a calculation. Moving three millimeters over "a couple of days" (read: 2) -- and converting to the more familiar albeit illogical English units [Wink] -- that translates to nearly 22 inches per year, or one mile in just under 3000 years. 'Course, none of this will matter if "The Big One" cycles us rapidly along the vertical axis within the next 200 years. [Eek!]

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quote:
Originally posted by Tech Angel:
familiar albeit illogical English units

English units of volume are based on powers of 2. A 12-inch foot is super-handy because 12 is evenly divisible by 2, 3, 4, and 6; it's easy to find fractions of the length. What's illogical about that?

I haven't found a compelling explanation of why a mile has 5280 feet, though, or an explanation of the name "hogshead".

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quote:
Originally posted by supaboy:
A 12-inch foot is super-handy because 12 is evenly divisible by 2, 3, 4, and 6; it's easy to find fractions of the length. What's illogical about that?

... If it's divisible by both 2 and 3, then 6 kinda goes without saying, eh? [Wink]

As for what's illogical, the problem is that 12 is less evenly divisible by 10. Since we tend to record lengths using a decimal numeric system, a unit of length divisible by 10 would be much more logical.

Hmmm, one mile every three millennia ... Snaggy, you and Nitrozac had better just take a plane instead. [ohwell]

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quote:
Originally posted by Danapoppa:
quote:
Originally posted by supaboy:
A 12-inch foot is super-handy because 12 is evenly divisible by 2, 3, 4, and 6; it's easy to find fractions of the length. What's illogical about that?

... If it's divisible by both 2 and 3, then 6 kinda goes without saying, eh? [Wink]

As for what's illogical, the problem is that 12 is less evenly divisible by 10. Since we tend to record lengths using a decimal numeric system, a unit of length divisible by 10 would be much more logical.

Hmmm, one mile every three millennia ... Snaggy, you and Nitrozac had better just take a plane instead. [ohwell]

Stupid math trick. To devise if a number is divisible by 3, add up the sumof its digits. If *that* number is divisible by 3, then the whole number is, too.

This can be repeated ad-infinitum until you get manageable numbers.

Also, to test if it's divisible by 6, use the divisible by 3 year, and add "if it's even" and you've got numbers divisible by 6.

ie: is 54653132783244 divisble by 3?

5+4+6+5+3+1+3+2+7+8+3+2+4+4 = 57
57 / 3 = 19

Therefore, 54653132783244 is divisible by 3.

Also, if you can't do 57/3 in your head, just add 5+7. 5 + 7 = 12. 12 / 3 = 4. Therefore, the original number is divisible by 3.

And now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

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Groovy piece about the failure of metric in everyday life:
http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/Metrication/metric_land.htm

Not to be confused with another Metric. ;P
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P.S. Another cool units thing - ISO paper sizes...
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html

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quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
Groovy piece about the failure of metric in everyday life:
http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/Metrication/metric_land.htm

I find that piece to be particularly silly. He's arguing the lack of merit in metric because of ambiguous, old habits.

Just because it's habit doesn't mean it's right.

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That guy is so brain damaged, it's incredible.

For a start, there is a standard metric 'cup' for use in measurements, I've got one in the kitchen, just as I had pre-metric.

And 250 ml is not a pint !

Oh, and do you know any carpenters who cut to 1/3mm accuracy?

Oh, and how do you divide a yard of wood evenly into 5 on your 'marked in eights of an inch' ruler?

Side note: When in Quebec and New Brunswick in 1993, most of the anglos used metric, but it was the French-speaking shopkeepers who often still sold their produce in pounds. Who invented the metric system?

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What makes me laugh is since the UK became metric on weights and measures you see the most ridiculous quantities in things. Cans of Stella Artios containing 567ml, blocks of cheese weighing 454g. Not to mention of course the madness that is measuring volume in metric and distance and speed in imperial. Yes, you buy petrol (that's Gas over there) by the litre but still consider a cars economy (or lack of) in terms of miles per gallon (or gallons per mile if you drive a challenger tank)
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Picking up on what Allan said.. I am 'of a certain age' and went through Infant School during the crossover from Imperial to metric. So... I understand that if it is -2 degrees Celcius it is cold, but if it is warm the temperature must be over 70 degrees Fahrenheit... I also know that:
1) a litre of water's a pint and three quarters
2) two and a quarter pounds of jam weigh about a kilogram
3) a metre measures three-foot three, it's longer than a yard you see!

Now, I am all for good mnemonic but purleeease!.
...and buying 454g of cheese is not the most absurd thing - those stories about going to a timber yard and buying 3 metres of 4" by 2" are all true!

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quote:
Originally posted by supaboy:
English units of volume are based on powers of 2....
I haven't found a compelling explanation of why a mile has 5280 feet,

Well that's obvious.
There's 3 feet in a yard.
And 5.5 yards in a rod. (aka 1 pole, aka 1 perch)
And 4 rods in a chain.
And 10 chains in a furlong.
And 8 furlongs in a mile.

3x5.5x4x10x8=5280.

What could be simpler?

(oh, and there's 20 fluid ounces to the pint in English units, dunno about those silly undersized pints you merkins use)

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quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
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(oh, and there's 20 fluid ounces to the pint in English units, dunno about those silly undersized pints you merkins use)

The U.S. is 83% of the British unit.
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quote:
Originally posted by Allan:
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
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(oh, and there's 20 fluid ounces to the pint in English units, dunno about those silly undersized pints you merkins use)

The U.S. is 83% of the British unit.
Ah, but are you talking about the dry pint or the liquid pint ? (neither of which is equal to a British pint)

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As I understand it a US pint is 16 fluid ounces so it matches the 16 ounces in the pound while the Imperial pint is 20 fl. oz. so that makes it 80% of an imperial pint...

But if anyone knows better please feel free to enlighten me further...

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quote:
Originally posted by Grummash:

2) two and a quarter pounds of jam weigh about a kilogram

I want to know why you'd ever want to buy jam by the pound or the kilogram! [Wink]

/me makes her own jam, but that's beside the point. [Razz]

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I want to know why you'd ever want to buy jam by the pound or the kilogram!
Rhonnie - a 'traditional' English jam jar holds a pound of jam, but now we have to have jars that hold 454g.. But it makes we wonder, in what quantities do people in the States buy jam?? {I am easily confused at this hour in the morning [ohwell] }

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There's the wee sampler jar, then the mid-sized single person's (or family-size for families that don't like jam and jelly), then the "22 people are coming for peanut butter and jelly sandwiches" size. [Big Grin]

Next time I'm at the store I'll take down the exact sizes for you. They're probably sold by Fl. ozs.

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They're 500g here in oz.

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Oh wow. They're called "conserves"? That's even odder than the old-fashioned term "preserves"! (Makes more logical sense to call 'em preserve, definitionally speaking.)

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What's the difference between jam, jelly and preserves?

How can you distinguish between jam, jelly, preserves, marmalade, and conserves?

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