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Tech Angel
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Icon 3 posted November 25, 2002 10:23      Profile for Tech Angel     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
In Thanatos' thread on finding a geek girl ("Explain this to me??"), the idea popped up about starting a geek dating service.

Hmm-m...now that presents an intriguing challenge: What would a dating service for geeks look like? How would it work? Most online services make very uninspired use of Our Geeky Tools -- "Provide us with tons of info about yourself and your preferences, and we'll match you electronically through our massive database", or "Post pictures, video, and narrative and let others do the picking" -- all very blase stuff in my opinion. It's just a Computer Age implementation of the the shotgun effect: if I can be connected with enough people, I'm bound to find somebody, right?

But we're the Masters and Mistresses of the tools they use to be cyber-Yentas. We ought to be able to contrive some really ingenious ways to leverage these tools to find the Geek Guy or Geek Gal of our dreams.

So...who's up to the challenge? How would you go about developing a dating service as only a true geek could? Anything goes, from creative uses of XML to online implementations of the Vulcan mind meld. Think outside the box.

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Nitro and I have often wanted to set something up, so to speak, like that. Matchups do seem to happen naturally though the Forums and on our IRC channels... but something a little more organized would certainly help, ... especially with the rampant shyness out there.
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Icon 1 posted November 25, 2002 16:28      Profile for Thanatos     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm there, with hardware, and little need for sleep. The normal--pictures, profiles, etc...The key thing is, having cruised a few (sadly) myself, is that there aren't many with key word or profile searches. The bottom line for most personal sites is that they are going for looks and money, and you have to scrub those for personality items... We'd have to include esoteric categories such as 'favorite video game' 'Favorite book (reading is a lost art, IMHOP)(oh, I'm officially coining the phrase 'in my house of pancakes. I consider it better than IMHO) 'Favorite TV show' (if you watch tv...I just disconnected tv b/c I only watched techtv and it wasn't worth the 45 bucks a month for just that), 'code, network, game, or design' and such. Also, 'what do you do in your non-computing time'...I love my computers, but I DO enjoy doing things in the real world on occasion!
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Icon 3 posted November 25, 2002 20:05      Profile for Tech Angel     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I am a big fan of true brainstorming -- that is, tossing up wild ideas not because they might be an actual solution, but because they get others thinking along different lines...and THAT may lead to an actual solution.

So here's something to consider: what is the goal of all those personality profiles on a typical matchmaking site? The underlying premise is that the better we can match interests, preferences, etc. of two people, the more likely these people are to hit it off. In short, it is a crude way of trying to predict whether or not these people will be happy with each other -- i.e., better matches = more likelihood of a promising future.

So what we really need is not endless databases to wade through, but a simulation program: "If we put these two people together, what is the likely outcome?".

Think about it...what if you could place yourself and a prospective dating candidate into a Sims-like matchmaker program and see what would happen if you two got together? Obviously each person would have to be suitably defined with complex algorithms of their characteristics, attitudes, behaviors, etc. Truly a geeky approach to the dating game!

Well, gee, it's not that far out, is it? [Smile] (At the very least, it would be oodles of fun!!!)

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Icon 1 posted November 25, 2002 21:40      Profile for Thanatos     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
wow, now that sounds like fun. Someone want to teach me AI?? PLEASE??? [Big Grin]
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Now that I am done giggling at the juxtaposition of "think outside the box" with this topic...

That's a really cool idea, Tech Angel... I think it would be a beast cataloging all the different personality traits that would have to figure in, though. =( Lots of drudge work there.

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Icon 14 posted November 26, 2002 08:01      Profile for erp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I don't think it would be that difficult to do. Time comsuming for sure, but not too difficult. (So says the overcritical observer [Razz] )

I believe however, that most sites have profiles that are too general, with unrelated pieces of information as the basis for a decision. [Mad]

Perhaps an approach would be a two-level search. The first would be a geek-oriented/computer-centric arena. All questions would accurately gauge the official 'Geek Quotient' of a person. [Big Grin] Then a second, optional (though possibly necessary) level would be more personal stuff that would need to be addressed (such as location, sex, whether you're prone to smoking/drinking).

Call it the Tech Connector. Or InterGeek. Or whatever you like. Just make it free. Having to pay to "connect" with someone is ludicrous. Just think of all the shareware you can pay off instead? [Wink]

On a different note, I think too many people think 'outside' the box. Hence the problems in the world. Let's get everybody back in the box, tackle important issues (like this Geek Dating thing). [Roll Eyes]

And why doe sit have to be a box? Why not a shpere, or a swimming pool? [Confused]

Maybe I'm a bit too far out of the box myself? [Frown]

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Icon 1 posted November 26, 2002 11:57      Profile for Colonel Panic         Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Originally posted by Tech Angel:
"If we put these two people together, what is the likely outcome?".

Think about it...what if you could place yourself and a prospective dating candidate into a Sims-like matchmaker program and see what would happen if you two got together? Obviously each person would have to be suitably defined with complex algorithms of their characteristics, attitudes, behaviors, etc. Truly a geeky approach to the dating game!

Well, gee, it's not that far out, is it? [Smile] (At the very least, it would be oodles of fun!!!)

I'm looking forward to your initial postulates on love-related behavior.

If you can find ANY logic in that, then it should be YOU living in the biggest house in Redmond Washington, and not, well ... (that bad guy).

[Big Grin]

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Icon 1 posted November 26, 2002 12:02      Profile for Colonel Panic         Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Originally posted by erp:


On a different note, I think too many people think 'outside' the box. Hence the problems in the world. Let's get everybody back in the box, tackle important issues (like this Geek Dating thing). [Roll Eyes]

And why doe sit have to be a box? Why not a shpere, or a swimming pool? [Confused]

Maybe I'm a bit too far out of the box myself? [Frown]

The same subject bothers me a lot, too, erp.

Out-of-the-box thinking never got anybody a Cracker Jack's prize, did it?

We can talk later about people who are constantly concerned about reaching "the next level.'

I mean if they can't afford a penthouse, why bother?

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Icon 1 posted November 26, 2002 12:04      Profile for GMx     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Or being "edgy." Without a "disconnect." [Wink]
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Your digression is disrupting the synergy of the conversation... ;P

Now if only I could say that with a straight face instead of jumping wholeheartedly into explaining how we could run phone sex lines after hours and increase our revenue, I might actually be welcome at company meetings.

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Icon 1 posted December 01, 2002 16:49      Profile for Thanatos     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
ooh, now that's a thought. One time when I came home from college (what seems many moons ago) my sister called one...

I should explain first: My older sister always considered me a bit uptight in college (maybe it was the military school, I don't know, I partied harder than she did, just in more infrequent bursts) so she made it her mission to 'help me loosen up' every time I came home for the holidays...and thus, many parties were born.
At this one particular smallish party, we were all drinking, and she thought it entertaining to call a 1-900 line and talk to the girl for about 4 hours....which turns out to be a significant bill, though she made a new friend (she, being an interesting individual, skipped past the porn and started asking the girl about her family and upbringing)....When the bill came in, she yelled at the phone company, said "I'm a single woman living alone! Why would I be on a porn line for four hours??" ...and got about 500 bucks deducted from her bill. Sis 1, Ma Bell 0.

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Why are non geek girls so intimidated and resentful of academic inclanation(geekyness) why do they resent and exile me to garbage bin of popular groups ( i really don't give a damn i'm perfectly contented but it was a cool poetic line and i had to say it). Why is there hatred so intense? [Confused] [Confused] [Confused]

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Because they're not the right women for you.
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Icon 8 posted December 22, 2002 19:09      Profile for GeekAvenger   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
But why can't they just say to themselves "ok i don't like this person, i'll just ignore him and go about my life as if I nevber met him? Why do they go out of their way to make trouble and contradict me and nasty comments?
they've been doing it for a while so what are they trying to do? I don't care so thats teasing and getting a response gone, everone knows they hate me so theres that out of the question, and i think that I know that they don't like me so that can't be the reason.

The damn foolishness of the situation is annoying! [Mad]

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Icon 1 posted December 23, 2002 08:30      Profile for greycat   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It sounds like you're in high school or junior high school. Many people at that age just aren't very mature. Ignore it and eventually it will stop.

Of course, the other possibility is that they're secretly attracted to you, and this is their way of showing it. But that's not highly probable. (Or at least, there's no way we could know based on the scant information you've given.)

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1: I am in juinor high school (yr 7)
2: I've ignored it all year, they're either persistant or stupid (most likely the latter)
3: They insult me with a lot of conviction and savagry, and they sound really loathful of me and if i'm within 3 metres they start wimpering, screaming "GET AWAY FREAK!!!!!" and shoving me and the moment I talk more that 10 seconds or answer often in class, they scream at me to shut up, talk to someone who cares and throw things at me ( in winter I left a history class with my hood of my jacket filled up with thrown bits of paper, pencils, and pencil shavings) They also won't touch something that i have, even if i'm handing back a dropped pencil case. (they carry it to their bag with rulers) [Frown] [Frown] [Frown]

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You're playing the victim. If they wont touch something you pick up for them then keep it instead of obeying their skanky orders.

Shower often, wear outrageous clothes so you dont know whether its you or the clothes they are goofing on, get these CDs and then stop being the victim:

1) Iggy & the Stooges - Raw Power
2) MC5 - Kick out the Jams
3) Black Flag - Damage(d)
4) Dead Kennedys - Frankenchrist
5) Skinny Puppy - Vivisect VI

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quote:
Originally posted by GeekAvenger:
1: I am in juinor high school (yr 7)
2: I've ignored it all year, they're either persistant or stupid (most likely the latter)
3: They insult me with a lot of conviction and savagry, and they sound really loathful of me and if i'm within 3 metres they start wimpering, screaming "GET AWAY FREAK!!!!!" and shoving me and the moment I talk more that 10 seconds or answer often in class, they scream at me to shut up, talk to someone who cares and throw things at me ( in winter I left a history class with my hood of my jacket filled up with thrown bits of paper, pencils, and pencil shavings) They also won't touch something that i have, even if i'm handing back a dropped pencil case. (they carry it to their bag with rulers) [Frown] [Frown] [Frown]

oh my god. is changing schools an option? what a living hell.

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Actually, just FYI, at one time User Friendly had a geek dating and personal ad service. Since I haven't read it in years, I'm not sure if that still exists.

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quote:
Originally posted by gallimaufry:
quote:
Originally posted by GeekAvenger:
1: I am in juinor high school (yr 7)
2: I've ignored it all year, they're either persistant or stupid (most likely the latter)
3: They insult me with a lot of conviction and savagry, and they sound really loathful of me and if i'm within 3 metres they start wimpering, screaming "GET AWAY FREAK!!!!!" and shoving me and the moment I talk more that 10 seconds or answer often in class, they scream at me to shut up, talk to someone who cares and throw things at me ( in winter I left a history class with my hood of my jacket filled up with thrown bits of paper, pencils, and pencil shavings) They also won't touch something that i have, even if i'm handing back a dropped pencil case. (they carry it to their bag with rulers) [Frown] [Frown] [Frown]

oh my god. is changing schools an option? what a living hell.

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quote:
Originally posted by gallimaufry:
quote:
Originally posted by GeekAvenger:
1: I am in juinor high school (yr 7)
2: I've ignored it all year, they're either persistant or stupid (most likely the latter)
3: They insult me with a lot of conviction and savagry, and they sound really loathful of me and if i'm within 3 metres they start wimpering, screaming "GET AWAY FREAK!!!!!" and shoving me and the moment I talk more that 10 seconds or answer often in class, they scream at me to shut up, talk to someone who cares and throw things at me ( in winter I left a history class with my hood of my jacket filled up with thrown bits of paper, pencils, and pencil shavings) They also won't touch something that i have, even if i'm handing back a dropped pencil case. (they carry it to their bag with rulers) [Frown] [Frown] [Frown]

oh my god. is changing schools an option? what a living hell.
At least you don't have to worry about not having a pencil or paper for class...just talk to them for 10 seconds until you get them thrown at you. )
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Hey, LT! Where ya been lately?

Nice to see you again.

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Wow TechAvenger that sounds like my junior high and most of my high school life. but about mid way though 10th grade I grew to of six feet tall and started dressing like a skater and magically people stopped picking on me. And now at 20 I work at my old high school as the the resident computer nerd and all the little high school girls have crushes on me cuz I don't care about any of the high school drama anymore plus I always look pissed off. So they think I'm dangerous or something. But so my post is somewhat on topic it would be good to have a geek dating service after all I don't think I can stand going out with another computer hating skater girl that always tells me to go outside..

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Why TA, you sassy thing, a geek dating service would involve getting people to meet on issues other than "does she share my love for matchbox cars."

Maybe some place where someone can share her issues as a woman, and a guy can respond with care, concern, support and his love of the Mac.

Then maybe they'd take it offline and get to know each other as friends much better.

Then who knows!

I think we geeks are too smart for the average systems. We need something more dynamic, more fluid, more *alive* to our senses.

What do you think?

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