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Shinaku
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Icon 1 posted May 05, 2003 10:28      Profile for Shinaku   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Wayhey! I have a new website! I am hosting it on my computer. web page thats it. It will only work if im online though [Frown]

It has an IRC room #smeg! on slashnet
It must have the ! on the end

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Icon 1 posted May 05, 2003 12:55      Profile for Slurpy     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ah, now, to be a real man, you have to code it in Notepad instead. . . [cry baby]
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dragonman97

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Icon 1 posted May 05, 2003 13:06      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
No, Slurpy, you must do it in vi to win my praise...

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Icon 1 posted May 05, 2003 13:32      Profile for SpikeSpiegel     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
im still waiting for his pps website [Wink] [devil wand]

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Sinn
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quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
No, Slurpy, you must do it in vi to win my praise...

Hah! I beat you both! I write it out on a sheet of paper and scan it in!

(kidding... I'm really not that lame)

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dragonman97

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Icon 1 posted May 05, 2003 13:48      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What, you don't think I've written programs on paper first?

Usually not HTML, though - way too easy, I'm talking about writing perl to generate HTML - I've been known to write that out on paper while bored in class...

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Spiderman

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Icon 1 posted May 05, 2003 13:58      Profile for Spiderman     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
No, Slurpy, you must do it in vi to win my praise...

LOL, is it actually possible to use vi? [Wink]

long live pico! [Big Grin]

-SM

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Tut-an-Geek

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Icon 1 posted May 05, 2003 14:08      Profile for Tut-an-Geek   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Welcome back spidy!!!
It's still beyond me, I'm happy with BBedit and/or pico [Smile]

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Icon 10 posted May 05, 2003 14:15      Profile for WinterSolstice     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Alright, I'll bite:

I use vi on a palm to write C code that I later inherit into C++ that then outputs a perl script that creates the page.

[Big Grin]


In reality, actually, I do most of my work web stuff in 1st Page (yay Evrsoft ), or in gVim 6.0 , but I also frequently do it on a Solaris box using gVim. At home, it's Project Builder on OS X, baaaby.

(drat, our new NAL deployed IE won't let me use the preview button from work anymore, so I hope the links worked!)

-WS

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Icon 1 posted May 05, 2003 15:17            Edit/Delete Post 
Pencil and paper are good for planning the design of a site, although I don't make new pages complex like that now.
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Icon 1 posted May 05, 2003 19:17      Profile for Spiderman     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Originally posted by ilovemydualg4:
Welcome back spidy!!!

Thanks.

Yeah, I spent several hours trying to learn vi but never quite got it. Maybe it's better running X and some type of GUI? Which wouldn't matter anyway as I don't like using gui ports of editors...

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Icon 1 posted May 06, 2003 06:04      Profile for greycat   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
vi rocks.
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Hmm... anyone remember the Acornsoft Screen Editor? (smeg might) That was a really cute editor :)

Or, UED for DOS?

I've only ever used some sort of graphical version of vi, and trying to make some sort of sense of that had a friend and I in total hysterics. The problem with these kinds of editors (the text-only versions anyhow) is that unless you've got time to dissect the manual (which I don't if it's not even my own computer), you will never have a clue how they work. Screen Editor, UED and PICO all have an interface concept in common - a bar along the bottom that tells you what to press for all the main operations - similar to a menu bar.

For those with impeccable memories, typing long strings of Martian into vi makes sense, but I have trouble remembering anything, so glancing at that bar to jog my memory is a lot more helpful.

Of course, I use BBEdit normally, and that has a regular menu bar. So does X-Emacs, but I don't have the time and patience to exorcise it of its desire to rearrange all my C and HTML into some kind of jumble. As will gVi(m), too, I guess, but seeing as I spend most of my time in Mac OS 9 and Windows, it's SimpleText/BBEdit and Notepad for me :)

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My main problem is that now i find myslef hitting ctrl-w for find in word or IE, which isn't a problem on the mac, but on the pc it gets annoying...
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Slurpy
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Icon 1 posted May 06, 2003 12:57      Profile for Slurpy     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
No, Slurpy, you must do it in vi to win my praise...

I do code in vi, actually, but Smeg choked when he tried Linux, remember? Looking at the source, I'm inclined to say that he did it in M$ Word. . .

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dragonman97

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Icon 1 posted May 06, 2003 13:18      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Slurpy - I'm confused - he said right on his site that he used M$ word to make the page...of course now it doesn't load - I bet he turned it off, unplugged/disconnected his modem, or his IP addr. changed - and as brilliantly versed in TCP/IP as he is, apparently he might not changed his dynamic DNS info. </sarcasm> [Okay, that sentence was too long, but I just don't care at the moment.]

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Icon 12 posted May 06, 2003 13:49      Profile for GMx     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Still waiting for the site made with PowerPoint. [shake head] [Roll Eyes]
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Slurpy
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Icon 1 posted May 06, 2003 21:19      Profile for Slurpy     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Heh, guess I missed where he said he did it in Word. [Razz]

And don't get me started on PowerPoint. . . [devil wand]

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CyberGoddess
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Icon 1 posted May 06, 2003 21:43      Profile for CyberGoddess   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
mmm.. notepad and pico...

I check my tables with Dreamweaver. Other than that, it's all handcoding.

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quote:
Originally posted by raydreams:
Wait til you go for a job interview and someone ask you what Dev Envs you know. And you respond, "I'm a die hard, I use vi." and they say, "Next...."

Funny, where I work they are too stingy (fortune 100 company, but won't buy software?), and they LOVE the text editors. Company standard here is actually TEdit. The only thing we splurge on for development is the MS Visual Studio stuff.

So here, where all web development is done on Sun, almost all java is done using Sun ONE, and TEdit/Emacs/VI rule for the page design... they would just be annoyed if you're a FrontPager [Smile]

-WS

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Raydreams:
Well, I personally find Dreamweaver just about incomprehensible - I was given it at work and refused to use it - just waste of time trying to find anyhing in it. The new MX version had some strange desire to flood my screen with so much junk, there wasn't space left to do any work.

Admittedly, I was there to do server-side scripting, not pretty eye candy (ew - my homepage was my last ever eye candy site) so I got away with it - just used ColdFusion studio for HTML/CFML editing and inline previewing.

I did have Dreamweaver 4 on this Mac, too, but I put my already-completed homepage into it, and it was too stupid to even render GIFs properly, so I gave up, and recently deleted it during my campaign to reduce the drive's file count (excessive file count (45,000+ sort of region) strains HFS+ horribly on a 604e under 9.1)

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Icon 1 posted May 07, 2003 09:33      Profile for GameMaster   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
On the same note, Look at most small bussiness webpages code, and you will find that it is clear that said hiring practice is degenerating the quality of sites... I was looking at the source code for company I work for (just out of curiosity) and was ashamed at what I saw... Then again, I am still not completly happy with my site yet (broken images, need alt text for pics, still have links to the FLASH games using javastript to open, and no warning they are flash) ... But at least this version has most of the content able to be navigated by lynx.
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Icon 1 posted May 07, 2003 21:05      Profile for CyberGoddess   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That's funny. My company is hiring a designer and the main requirement is the ability to handcode HTML solidly and cleanly.

Hrm... [Smile]

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