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Orbhead
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Icon 1 posted November 25, 2002 15:40      Profile for Orbhead   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
2002 Kia Rio RX-V Sport.

No small feat for me. Being unemployed for two months, if you would have told me two months ago that I would be driving a new car, I would have laughed at you.

I have never owned a car of my own before, just drove other people's and paid the insurance.

I am seriously excited. Mine looks like this, but is tinted, has a spoiler, and larger wheels. The acceleration is a bit bad, but otherwise, I am loving it!

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Icon 14 posted November 25, 2002 16:14      Profile for TMBWITW,PB     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Very cool, my car isn't nearly that nice. You rock!

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Kia.... unemployed....

North American economy....

Irony.

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Icon 1 posted December 01, 2002 08:54      Profile for GMx     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
North American...
Union workers...
Overpaid....
Underworked...
Made crap cars...
Overpriced...
Gas guzzling...
People stopped buying them...
SOL...
No irony...
[Wink]

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Icon 1 posted December 01, 2002 09:02      Profile for graphicrevolution   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Irony, is seeing some jackass in a Chevy S-10 with a bumper sticker that says "Import Eater" when;

a) His truck was made in Mexico, and

b) the VR6 GTI next to him blew his doors off, no turbo necessary...

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Icon 1 posted December 01, 2002 12:59      Profile for Charisma   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I am thinking about buying my first car...

1996 Mitshubishi Eclispe RS 5-Speed
AC, PW, PL, Sunroof, ABS, CD, Alarm

The only thing is that it's an ugly green... so I might paint it.

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Sorry GMx, but you're completely wrong and obviously know nothing about manufacturing and economics.

Then again, I can't waste a lot of time responding to ridiculous generalizations.....

If you are part of the North American economy and you have such a flippant attitude toward our products, I can only wonder why you are content with ignorance.

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Icon 1 posted December 01, 2002 20:03      Profile for quantumfluff     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I just bought a new car as well. A Mini Cooper in chili red with a white roof. It will arrive in January. I'm very excited.
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Icon 1 posted December 01, 2002 20:53      Profile for GMx     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Where did you get your degree in economics? [Roll Eyes] Try taking this economics test . It's not that easy. I got 29/35 right for a score of 83%. Not bad for someone who's ignorant. [Razz] If you know all the answers can you explain why there's so much unemployment in Detroit? I would say greed on the part of manufacturers and the unions is one. The fact that they did make shoddy products and only began to address those problems after they started getting their butts kicked in the market is another. They still haven't recovered to the market share they had before. The only reason they started making more fuel efficient cars is because the oil embargo in the seventies and people had started buying more fuel efficient imported cars. Now they're back to making gas-guzzling Suburban Assault Vehicles that in the near future they probably won't be able to give away once fuel prices soar when the war with Iraq starts. The Japanese and Germans got smart and started building plants in the US following US threats of tariffs and reduction of imports allowed in the US. They taught the workers their more efficient production techniques, while Detroit fumbled along until they finally decided they were on to something. Lastly, I have some anecdotal evidence. I had two American cars and they were both junk , requiring repairs all the time. My niece has an American car that's only five or so years old but it's had to have a complete engine overhaul, a brand new transmission and major brake work. My 1988 Nissan Sentra hasn't had to have anything major worked on and the last time I did have to have something done was about two years ago or so (I can't remember exactly because it was so long ago).

So maybe I'm not Alan Greenspan or John Maynard Keynes or Milton Friedman, but I do know that if somebody making over $20 an hour plus benefits can't make a quality product, they deserve to be unemployed and their company needs to go down the toilet.

Besides all that, the US economy has been moving away from a manufacturing economy to a service economy since the '80's.

Saying I'm completly wrong is a gross generalization on your part. And speaking of gross generalizations, the US economy does not revolve around the automobile industry.
I guess I do have a lot of time to waste responding because I don't have a union job that pays over $20 an hour plus benefits. I'm just jealous. [Razz] [Wink] [Beard of Peter Gabriel!]

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Icon 7 posted December 01, 2002 20:57      Profile for GMx     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Originally posted by quantumfluff:
I just bought a new car as well. A Mini Cooper in chili red with a white roof. It will arrive in January. I'm very excited.

Oh no! Another American in the unemployment line! [Razz]
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Icon 9 posted December 02, 2002 09:49      Profile for TMBWITW,PB     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Originally posted by GMx:
Try taking this economics test . It's not that easy. I got 29/35 right for a score of 83%.

Only 27/35. 77%. I knew I should have paid more attention in my senior economics class.

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GMx I hate to rain on the first float of your parade, but I got 23/35 and I've only ever been to America once.

You are right about American cars though... You only have to look in the luxury and specialist car markets to see what people are lusting for, correct me if I'm wrong but it's brands like BMW, Lexus, Mercedes and Jaguar. OK, Mercedes is part of Diamler Chrysler but it's still European designed.

You don't need to major in economics to know that poor product design & construction are only tolerated by customers without choice. And as for buying American because you're American, yeah right, whatever...

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quote:
Originally posted by quantumfluff:
I just bought a new car as well. A Mini Cooper in chili red with a white roof. It will arrive in January. I'm very excited.

Mmmmmm... yummy. Say good-bye to those parallel-parking woes. Those machines are honeys. Mmm... take corners like a go-kart on steroids. I'd sell my Mother for a Cooper... if I hadn't already traded her for a bottle of JD.

You ever seen The Italian Job, btw? Starring Michael Caine and three Minis.

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What are you on today???? And give me some. [Wink]

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Icon 1 posted December 02, 2002 13:25      Profile for GMx     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Originally posted by Allan:
GMx I hate to rain on the first float of your parade, but I got 23/35 and I've only ever been to America once.

You are right about American cars though... You only have to look in the luxury and specialist car markets to see what people are lusting for, correct me if I'm wrong but it's brands like BMW, Lexus, Mercedes and Jaguar. OK, Mercedes is part of Diamler Chrysler but it's still European designed.

You don't need to major in economics to know that poor product design & construction are only tolerated by customers without choice. And as for buying American because you're American, yeah right, whatever...

I've never had a course in economics . [Big Grin] Mercedes aka Daimler-Benz bought Chrysler a few years ago, so Chrysler's no longer an American company so to speak.
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28/35 on the quiz, and I've never had an economics class - just studied it a little for Academic Decathalon.

And to throw in my pointless anecdotes about the cars I've spent the most time around:
1988 Ford F150 (American) - Barely runs now since it developed engine trouble about five years ago. And it's practically all rusted away.

1990 Nissan Sentra (Japanese) - Not a bad car, but its timing chain has jumped twice. No apparent engine damage, but replacement is a significant prohect. Also needed clutch replaced at ~120K mi.

1994 Saturn SW1 (American) - Best of the three. Most significant repair ever was probably a new radiator at ~250K mi. Engine, clutch, transmision are all still working well at 270K mi (just turned today) and it still gets 35+ MPG. Whoever invented plastic body panels is a genius.

So clearly it's possible for an American company to build a decent car in an American plant. Still, I wouldn't go so far to say that this example is the rule and not an exception.

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Icon 1 posted December 02, 2002 19:58      Profile for Orbhead   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Originally posted by quantumfluff:
I just bought a new car as well. A Mini Cooper in chili red with a white roof. It will arrive in January. I'm very excited.

If I weren't unemployed for two months, I would have gotten one as well. Silver, with a black roof though.

And dang! What happened to this thread? Perhaps I should have left the unemplyed part out? Just for the record, I am not unemployed anymore, I just was in August and September.

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Nice one Orbhead: Maybe you can trade up in the spring?
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'92 Nissan Sentra, made in Tennessee. Dashboard quite possibly made by the wife of my friend. American workers making a living by manufacturing quality vehicles. Net profits go to Japan instead of Detroit. I'm OK with that, since it took a Japanese company to make a great American-built vehicle.

'00 Saturn SL2, made in Tennessee by an American company. Had a $200.00 per month repair or replacement habit by the time we traded it in for a Honda Civic. Actually had spark plug wires going bad. Last car made by an American manufacturer that I will ever buy.

My 2 cents US.

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At the same time, however, I have a 99 Saturn SC2 that has never given me any trouble whatsoever. [Smile]

Also, as a clarification, someone lumped Lexus into the European car market. The Lexus is the high end brand of Toyota, a Japanese company. Therefore, Lexus doesn't qualify as a European car. Like Acura and Infiniti, it's merely a higher-end brand of a Japanese company. Lexus = Toyota. Acura = Honda. Infiniti = Nissan.

Some other European cars that are highly desired by Americans are, of course, Volkswagen, Audi, Volvo, and Saab.

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I've heard that there were some serious issues with the 2000 model year redesign. A friend of mine had the same model and we both had transmission problems (neither of which were fixed or handled appropriately by our dealer).
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Reinforces my belief that once GM started controlling Saturn, they started going downhill [Frown]

Unfortunately, that's one of the reasons my next car won't be a Saturn. GM's running them into the ground and changing a lot of what made them such a great company.

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