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Shooshie
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Icon 1 posted September 22, 2016 16:22      Profile for Shooshie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
This website is cool. There have been some great conversations here in the forums, but most of all the illustrations and writing of the site itself are amazing. This is archetypal stuff. These are the illustrations we think of when someone mentions internet comics. Everyone in Silicon Valley is familiar with the Joy of Tech. And anyone who is cool has read After Y2K. Of course... the SUPER cool folks read it when it was happening!

Snaggy and Nitrozac have been reaching out to us recently for support. They didn't put me up to this, and I hope they don't mind, but I want to say a few words about them, their comic, and the state of comics in general. Newspaper comics have always made their artists and writers a pretty good living... until now. These things don't just happen. They certainly don't happen for free. Yet we all read them, and in a site like this we enjoy all the surprises and tech-centric pictures, gags, and comics, essentially for free.

I don't remember how long I've been coming here, but it must be going on 20 years, give or take a few. I've sent money when I thought of it, which was never often enough, but now I've joined their Patreon group, such that $10/month gets deducted from my account. It's certainly worth it to me to spend a little money each month to keep the doors open here. The net wouldn't be the same if I clicked on J of T and got a 404.

Ponder that last sentence for a moment, then consider joining me in support of a professional comic strip that has made it much further than most in this age of disappearing comics. And this strip was the narrative for much of the development of this new online age. They poked everyone who mattered, when they needed poking.

Newspaper comics as we know them today have been around for a little over 100 years. In the 1980s and 1990s, they began shrinking in size, literally, so that newspapers could put more on a single page. This forced comic artists and writers to adopt a more austere style with less text, fewer artistic and writing choices, and it caused a lot of comic artists to quit rather than face the inevitable. Then came the closure of newspapers. I don't need to remind you of what happened. It's all fresh on our minds. We read our news online. So where are the comics now? Syndicates still maintain websites where you can subscribe to your favorite comics, but the support is dwindling. Comic artists like Nitrozac and Snaggy have maintained with independent sites, often selling merchandise to pay for it. But that, too, has limits. I think we need to show how much we enjoy this strip and this site.

The irony is mind-numbing: finally, the greatest way to both publish and to enjoy comics — unlimited space, unlimited artistic choices, clear bright medium with no tears or folds — but no reliable means of support, until now. The Patreon model offers new hope for strips like this, but it's a partnership. It's only going to work if we participate. Time to come out of the internet bunkers, folks, and yes, you've got to put your credit card out there for it to work. But you do it for Amazon when you want that cool new drone. Think of what you could do for the broadening of our culture if you helped democratize the support for artists and writers. Think how depraved a world this will be if we fail to do that. This is your chance, folks, and if you put it off for another day, you're liable to see that 404 when you click your favorite sites. Do it.

Support independent comics. Support Joy of Tech. How about paying for a little of that Joy?

Shooshie

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Snaggy

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Icon 1 posted September 23, 2016 12:05      Profile for Snaggy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Thanks Shooshie, I really appreciate that. [Happytears]

I fear though, that people don't even click to their favorite sites anymore, it seems it's all delivered by Facebook now, depending on the algorithm. [Frown]

We are pretty down about this, and there's another thing that's really getting us down, but that's a whole other ball of stress. We've always had to claw our way through the months, but the past few months have been really different. Not exactly sure why. Vox dropping us after they restructured ReCode hurt, but everything else fell through the floor too it seems. Ad blockers maybe, dunno. Algorithm changes at Facebook and Twitter always hurt, (they want us to pay for exposure you see.) Or perhaps it's just we're dinosaurs now and all things must pass.

We had to drop our credit card processor this month and just go with PayPal. [cry baby] In October I'm going to have start really cutting things. *cringe* This is an awful feeling but it looks like we're going to have to move our server to a cheaper option, so, lump-in-throat... I'm not sure the Forums will be here when the dust settles. [weep] Edit: I think they will be, I'll do my best.

OK, Pity Party over.
Pulling on bootstraps...
Gathering my strength...
Soldiering on...

Stormy had a good tweet today... "Failure is simply the opportunity to begin again, this time more intelligently." —Henry Ford

Can't thank you enough for the kind words and the support.

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Nitrozac

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Icon 14 posted September 23, 2016 14:27      Profile for Nitrozac   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
thanks for this post, Shooshie! It means a lot to me, and it really spells it out accurately. I really appreciate all the JoT fans and their support over all these years [Applause]

I would like to keep on making comics about the tech world, I think it can use a good poke now and then. The Patreon model has helped a lot of web comics stay in business, I'm really hoping it will work out for us too. Anything is really appreciated, and I think our rewards are really good too!

Thanks again Shooshie, I will be re-reading this post for a long time, I think. It's very encouraging and that's exactly what I needed now. [Happytears]

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Ugh, MightyClub
BlabberMouth, the Next Generation
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Icon 1 posted September 26, 2016 13:06      Profile for Ugh, MightyClub     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Shooshie went and said everything that's been on my mind about this subject, plus a little bit more. I really hope the Patreon experiment works out. It certainly makes it easier for me to contribute on a regular basis. I, like Shooshie, did not remember to send money nearly often enough before Patreon.

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Ugh!

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dragonman97

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Icon 1 posted September 26, 2016 18:28      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Oh, Snaggy...say it isn't so. :/

Obviously you've got to do what you've got to do, but it's sad to see a nice little corner of the Internet run up against the behemoth that is Facebook and/or Twitter. [Frown] Even grumpy old me, decided it was finally time to embrace those two, much as I loathe the privacy implications. The latter seemed marginally more useful and well...wasn't run by Zuckerberg. But...the former finally won me over with the siren song of a geeky girl. (Also, a friend has been clubbing me over the head with 'you should just do it - it's a practical way to coordinate stuff/keep up.' But, while I listened to him, he wasn't the tipping point. [Razz] )

*sigh*

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angryjungman

Solid Nitrozanium SuperFan!
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Icon 1 posted September 27, 2016 13:02      Profile for angryjungman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I may not be as active as I used to be, but this site is the first tab I have pinned in Chrome on my work machine. Your Tech always brings me much Joy.

For those of us who have various levels of SuperFan memberships, does it work out better for you guys to stick with that or should we switch over to the Patreon? Either way, I totally want to get my hands on one of those sweet membership cards.

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Snaggy

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Icon 3 posted September 27, 2016 13:18      Profile for Snaggy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
angryjungman: SuperFandom is better for us actually, Patreon takes 15% on top of payPal fees!

I was just going to post about that! Send me your address [email protected] and I'll see what I can do. :-)

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Spiderman

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Icon 1 posted September 28, 2016 17:40      Profile for Spiderman     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I haven't posted in forever, but have to just add that this place holds such a special place in my heart. So many memories and friendships formed here, and it's so sad to hear things aren't going so well.

Good to know about the SuperFan membership being ideal - I'll leave mine exactly as-is [Smile]

And hi.

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Math problems? Call 1-800-[(10x)(13i)^2]-[sin(xy)/2.362x]

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Jessycat

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Icon 6 posted September 28, 2016 18:25      Profile for Jessycat     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Proud SuperFan here, now and forever!
LOVE YOU GUYS.

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Snaggy

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Icon 10 posted September 28, 2016 18:29      Profile for Snaggy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
LOVE YOU SPIDEY AND JESSYCAT!!!!!
[hearts] [Happytears] [hearts]

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dragonman97

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Icon 1 posted September 29, 2016 14:43      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I'm glad to hear that my inertia is perfectly fine. [Smile] Moving to some new system...ugh.

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macmcseboy

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Icon 1 posted October 02, 2016 20:22      Profile for macmcseboy     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
As long as I am gainfully employed I am a superfan! This is one of those sites I still am attached to...

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Live long and prosper.

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Xanoxt R'rilander
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Icon 1 posted October 03, 2016 16:15      Profile for Xanoxt R'rilander     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Joy of Tech / Geek Culture is great! I am not a regular, but I do keep dropping here frok time to time. And stumbling upon this site and forums is also connected with one of the most hard and awesome expriences that I had, so I usually mention it when relevant even without realizing that I did. :-D

It was handy lately, though. Hope my suggestion would work to being the site back to the financial health. 8) And finaly learn about crypto currencies! :-D Steemit is a gate way drug for them, on top of being a plan to take over the world. :-D

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"Who like KOF official license comic in high quality vegetarian is absolutely will not be miss!"
Ah, joys of Engrish...

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HalfVast

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Icon 10 posted October 05, 2016 12:58      Profile for HalfVast     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Seeing as I still keep the site in my shortcuts I re-upped my superfan status. Carry on [Big Grin]
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Snaggy

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Icon 14 posted October 05, 2016 13:07      Profile for Snaggy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Thanks HalfVast!
[Applause] [hearts] [thumbsup]

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Nitrozac

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Icon 14 posted October 05, 2016 13:28      Profile for Nitrozac   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Thanks guys! You are great! We really appreciate all you've done for us over the years. [Happytears]
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