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snupy
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Icon 5 posted September 08, 2004 08:16      Profile for snupy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I saw the movie Open Water, and have seen the tv specials and net info on the true story of the Lonergans, and I think it's fascinating. I know this was big news there, so I was wondering what you all think really happened??

There was the apparent "death wish" of the husband, the diaries, the jackets and part of the dive suits coming back untouched, the fact that there were apparently many many boats out that day...but on the other hand, how could they have known the boat would miscount and that no one would miss them? What about the slate that was found asking for help?

I think they panicked and/or became delirious by the next day and let themselves die..shedding their gear, etc. Or the slate was a rouse and he killed her while she was passed out or something and then himself.

It's all so mysterious. And I do feel for the Captain who lost everything..he seemed genuinely shattered about it.

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For the benefit of those who don't know, this is the story of a tourist boat out to the Great Barrier Reef. They park on a nice bit of reef, let the tourists go diving/snorkeling for a few hours, then leave *without collecting all of the tourists*.

Two tourists got left behind, and died some time later.

There's a lot of stories about what *really* happened, most of them contradictory, or just obviously bullshit. Personally, I suspect the tourist industry up in QLD liked to put the idea about that it was suicide (or murder/suicide) because that's less embarassing for them than "oh fsck, we forgot to do a head count".

I've been on a few of these trips myself, both before and after. Before they were pretty lax, and I can see how it could have happened by accident. Now they're very strict, last trip I was on had 2 guys, one with a passenger list, checking you off by name, the other just did a head count, then the captain came and checked with both before heading off. They really, really don't want something like that to happen again, killing your customers is bad for business.

Side note: when my brother was in Fiji, he went on a dive trip to a reef there. The boat took them out, dropped them off in the water, then the captain said "see you in an hour" and left to collect another batch of customers. He returned in an hour, dropped off a new batch, took the first batch back to shore, repeat until end-of-day. Kind of puts Australias safety lapses in perspective.

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snupy
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Icon 1 posted September 08, 2004 17:50      Profile for snupy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
So, you don't have an opinion as to what really happened?? As for the suicide theory they put out, no one has refuted the accuracy of the diaries in which the husband said he wanted to die, and the wife's, which said he had a "death wish" and she was afraid she would be caught in it.

I don't know why, but I find these things fascinating. There was a story awhile back of a young woman on a cruise with her parents who just vanished. They think she just fell overboard at some point. I always wondered if they found the body or figured out what happened. [ohwell]

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Icon 1 posted September 08, 2004 17:59      Profile for csk     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by snupy:
So, you don't have an opinion as to what really happened?? As for the suicide theory they put out, no one has refuted the accuracy of the diaries in which the husband said he wanted to die, and the wife's, which said he had a "death wish" and she was afraid she would be caught in it.

TFD must have a superior current affairs awareness, because I hadn't heard of this until this thread. Hence my opinion is largely uninformed.

However, it sounds feasible to me that a combination of the "death wish" and negligence occurred. The husband could well have deliberately made himself (and his wife, presumably) scarce, and the tour operators may well have not head counted either.

Once you nut this one out, you can move on to the infamous "dingo ate my baby" Chamberlain case.

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Icon 1 posted September 08, 2004 18:42      Profile for The Famous Druid     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by csk:
Once you nut this one out, you can move on to the infamous "dingo ate my baby" Chamberlain case.

The Dingo is innocent, ok.

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What about those scumbags who threw their kids off the boat .....
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quote:
Originally posted by snupy:
So, you don't have an opinion as to what really happened??

My money's on the "Dingo with scuba gear" theory [Wink]

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