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TheMoMan
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Icon 1 posted March 10, 2014 12:25      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Some one took command of the air-plane and forced the pilots to land at an Isolated field.

Electronic failure the pilots bellied it in and then it sank.

The Millennium Falcon grabbed it out of the sky and it is in orbit or on its way to some other planet.

No wreckage and no jet fuel on the water.

Your ideas.

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In 2009, Air France flight 447 disappeared on a flight out of Rio - the wreckage wasn't found until 2011.

It took 73 years to find the Titanic.

The ocean is big, and deep.

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During my stint in the U.S.Navy I was SAR rated.

SAR (Search And Rescue) after Forty Eight it became Search And Recovery

First day the pattern 15 X 15 miles winds and surface currants would change the shape.

Because of no wreckage it landed somewhere, bellied in the water intact and sank. When we were flying the pattern we called the process mowing the grass.

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Icon 1 posted March 11, 2014 14:50      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Interesting Twist.

National Post.

Yup turn off the transponders and drop to 100 meters.

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Desmond didn't punch in the numbers in time, so the plane crashed on a mysterious island with a smoke monster. [Wink]
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quote:
Originally posted by GMx:
Desmond didn't punch in the numbers in time, so the plane crashed on a mysterious island with a smoke monster. [Wink]

Horrible, but something similar was running through my head.

Seriously - it's 2014 - we should have better data, no? This isn't the age of the Bermuda Triangle. :/

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Here's a plausible non-tinfoil-hat theory

tl;dr - structural flaw in antenna mount could have cut communications and caused loss of cabin pressure, rendering occupants unconscious.

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Tfd While this is plausible I am sticking with a UFO grabbed the 777.

Has anyone checked with Google Earth time lapse to see if there is a debris field in that area of the world?

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http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282?mobile=y

which would fit in the broken antenna theory too

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quote:
Originally posted by Snaggy:
http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282?mobile=y

which would fit in the broken antenna theory too

The plot thickens - score 1 for the Internet of Things, eh?

Now, if they had a pilot on par w/Sully, things might not be too awful. That's doubtful, but curious nonetheless.

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Or somebody wanted to goto Bangladesh?

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If it landed in a real airport anywhere short of the DPRK, word would have gotten out within days. If not through the authorities, someone probably would have friggin' tweeted it.

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I was not suggesting that it may have landed at an Airport with a control tower! Have you ever gone Island hopping in the Bahamas? Some of those Airports are just cleared paths in the jungle.

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quote:
Originally posted by TheMoMan:
Have you ever gone Island hopping in the Bahamas? Some of those Airports are just cleared paths in the jungle.

I've used airports where the local villagers had to chase the pigs off the runway before takeoff, but they don't take 777's. That narrows the field quite a bit.

The local press carried the '4 hour' story (based on the engines phoning home to Rolls Royce - we live in the Sci-Fi Future) with a map showing that flight radius from the point where they lost main transponder comms. Basically anywhere from Pakistan to Japan, with a fair chunk of Northern Australia thrown in for fun.

If it's a "lost cabin pressure and cruised on autopilot till they ran out of fuel" scenario, they need to be searching the Sea of Japan, or North Pacific.
If it's a tinfoil-hat scenario, that circle included India, China, Korea, Indonesia... close to 1/2 of the worlds population, including several countries with pretty dodgy governments, or no real government at all. A jet with transponders off **could** sneak into a disused or makeshift airport (eg some of the aussie mining towns have landing strips that **could** take a 777 if the pilot had a death wish) but then a 777's not easy to hide from a satellite search, you'd need an effing big shed.

We may never know. It took 2 years to find the Air France wreckage, and that was right on the flight path. If this one's off course, it may never be found.

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I am really hoping that one of the pilots decided to steal the plane and sell it or sell it for parts. Pilots have commented that you could even have landed that plane on a dirt runway as long as you have 5000 feet ( slate.com). Also, there are enough dodgy airlines in africa where they might not mind if the parts are coming from this plane. ( most of these airlines are on the black list).


I would bet most of the families will be hoping for this as well. And if the plane crashed and they are dead it is unfortunate becaue the greieing process will take much longer to start.

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The plot thickens.
They're now saying the plane flew for 7 hours after the transponders were cut, that puts them anywhere from Somalia to Japan, or Kazakhstan, Australia, Mongolia...

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if it flew for so long I wonder if they were flying slowly to conserve fuel to fly further? I don't think that at normal cruising alt. and spped that plane had the fuel to fly so long.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
if it flew for so long I wonder if they were flying slowly to conserve fuel to fly further? I don't think that at normal cruising alt. and spped that plane had the fuel to fly so long.

Todays news said 6 hours.

They needed 5 just to make it to Beijing, their planned destination.
I haven't seen anything on how much fuel they were carrying, but the chinese airports are notoriously congested, long delays are commonplace, so I expect they'd plan for some time in a holding pattern waiting to land.

The theory-du-jour is that the plane didn't head NW towards India as originally thought (they think India would have spotted it) but SW over the Indian Ocean. There's not a lot down there except the Seychelles, which would be about a 7 hour flight. Could be that's where they were aiming for, and the fuel didn't last as long as they'd hoped.

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Apparently Jet liner engines the APU (Auxiliary power Unit) The flight power boost systems (Hydraulics) are all related to ET. "ET phone home."

Tonight on CNN evening news was about all of the theories that are being cooked up. Hans Solo give us our airliner back!

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This guy says MH370 was hijacked; the hijacker(s) then deliberately turned off the radar transponder and some other systems, then scooted up next to a Singapore Airlines 777 heading for Europe so that they wouldn't show up as a unique and mysterious contact on military radars ... then dropped off in a radar shadow area somewhere in ... Central Asia?

No. Too complex. Aliens. It was aliens.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
In 2009, Air France flight 447 disappeared on a flight out of Rio - the wreckage wasn't found until 2011.

This isn't quite correct - they found a large amount of debris (and bodies) floating after ca. 5 days. But in that case they knew roughly where the plane was, and it crashed hard enough to break up the plane. I suppose it could have ditched clean, then sank. But there are immersion triggered EPIRBs on board every plane ...

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A Startlingly Simple Theory About the Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/?utm_source=nextdraft&utm_medium=email

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Interesting

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quote:
Originally posted by Snaggy:
A Startlingly Simple Theory About the Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/?utm_source=nextdraft&utm_medium=email

Patrick Smith, of Ask the Pilot, seems to concur that it's a decent possibility:
http://www.askthepilot.com/malaysia-airlines-flight-370/

It does make a hell of a lot more sense - very much a Hanlon's Razor sort of answer.

Also, the thing that bugs me about a na'er-do-well explanation is that people should be coming out of the woodwork to claim responsibility as chief-baddies...and no one has done that.

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NO, No, no It can not be an equipment failure it has to be a conspiracy, it just has to.

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