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TheMoMan
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Icon 12 posted April 09, 2010 05:37      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
____ I have seen a floppy disk with a full OS and terminal emulator included.

____ That is all I need, I have found plenty of dead links and apps, I want a bootable CD or Floppy with a serial terminal included. Any hints on where I could find this.

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TheMoMan
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Icon 1 posted April 09, 2010 05:55      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
____ Whoops, I may have found one "Damn Small Linux" the latest distro. [Big Grin]

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Benjamin Franklin,

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TheMoMan
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Icon 1 posted April 09, 2010 09:40      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
____ Whoops again, for some reason DSL will not boot on that machine, and all the Terminal Emulators I have found, assume that I am going through a modem. I just want to open, the port, set the baud rate, bits, parity, stop bits, and open the radio memories. I have even tried to use a printer script, but again, no port control options.

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Benjamin Franklin,

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Icon 1 posted April 09, 2010 10:20      Profile for MacManKrisK     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I realize this document is overkill for what you are doing, but it DOES explain, very well, how terminals work in Linux.

You shouldn't need any special software to get a serial terminal in Linux. The Text-Terminal-HOWTO explains it far better than I can.

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Icon 1 posted April 09, 2010 11:03      Profile for littlefish   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Does it have a floppy?
toms root + boot

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Icon 1 posted April 09, 2010 15:30      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
____ MMKK & Littlefish, yes it does have a Floppy Drive. I have battled with Puppy Linux for three days. it does not want to let me install Microcom, Minicom or cutecom. I always get a no configuration file found, attempt to find the config.

____ If I still had my old Texas Ins. 99/4a I would have the radio VFO's programed by now. I still have the notebook on port setup.

____ Thus far I have tried Puppy, Fedora, Slax, Debian and ubuntu Live CD's to no avail. As I am typing this toms is loading and will be set up as an ISO if it can be.

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Icon 1 posted April 09, 2010 15:57      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I learned a bit ago that `screen` can actually do this if you point to your terminal device - i.e. /dev/ttyS0.

Google points to this as one post on the matter:
http://pthree.org/2010/03/23/connecting-to-serial-null-modems-with-gnu-screen/

I have this pretty fresh in my mind as I used it on my MacBook the other day with a USB serial adapter...which is awesome as I don't have to install any garbage!

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http://www.openqnx.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=259&theme=Printer - would that be the one you're looking for?
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TheMoMan
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Icon 1 posted April 10, 2010 14:54      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
____ My forehead is starting to feel better, here is an update on the programable VFO (Variable Frequency Oscillators) Linky:

http://www.pongrance.com/super-dds.html

Puppy Linux, and DSL do not allow Screen as a command in console. Ubuntu does, so I hooked up the VFO to the laptop and had a go. I got an error message but it was on the screen too short of a time to read, so after severfal tries I got the gist that it could not see the VFO. Then I remembered that for this Dell Laptop INSPIRON 8000
I have three or four HDs that can be plugged into the side of the thing. So I go scurring around to find the one with XP on it. Lo and behold it also has Hyperterminal. So I set up the terminal and it does nothing, so I get out my big magnifier and find a build error (mine) I have shorted pins 2/3 so now I knew why Ubuntu was faulting out.

____ So I hook up the cables again and give it a go, damn it works, filled all of the memory slots, took it back out to try with the transmitter. The VFO works as it should however it appears I need new finals in the transmitter.

____ Thanks for all who offered help, you sent me onto paths I needed to make these work, now to finish the receiver, and it's VFO (and Program it)
[Smile] [Wink] [Smile] [Cool]

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Icon 1 posted April 10, 2010 19:06      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Well done!

Hyperterminal may be a sad excuse for a terminal, but trying the same thing with different tools is an awfully good way to confirm a failure.

FYI: PuTTY now support serial terminal. [hearts]

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Icon 1 posted April 11, 2010 04:06      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
____ While sitting here this morning, I had the thought pass through, how many people remember when we had to configure the ports, Speed, Parity, and Stop Bits, oh yeah and flow control. I remember my first modem a blazing 1200baud and the websites were all in text.

Open RS232/1 2400 8n1 Xon/Xoff
Print RS232/1: ATA (then the modem string that dialed the right number)

____ Sure is easy now. [Applause]

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Icon 12 posted April 11, 2010 04:47      Profile for MacManKrisK     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
AT&F
OK
ATH1
OK
ATDT 2660236
NO CARRIER

[Frown]

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TheMoMan
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Icon 1 posted April 11, 2010 06:03      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
____ MMKK A friend from back then had the kind that you dialed the phone, and then put the handset into a special cradle to do the handshaking. There were two volume controls one for out going, and the other for receiving, if they weren't set right, no connection.

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Icon 1 posted April 11, 2010 07:05      Profile for The Famous Druid     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by MacManKrisK:
AT&F
OK
ATH1
OK
ATDT 2660236
NO CARRIER

[Frown]

Ah, the good old days, when all you needed to do to become a notorious troll was put + + + A T H 0 (without the spaces) in the title of your usenet post.

MoMan: my first experience computer comms was a 300 baud acoustic coupler with a fault in the tone generator circuit that was used during the initial handshake - so I had to make the call, whistle down the line for a few seconds, then place the handset on the AC cradle.

<Yorkshire>And you try and tell th' yooong peep'l that t'day...</Yorkshire>

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TheMoMan
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Icon 1 posted April 11, 2010 10:53      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
____ TFD & MMKK Wasn't it thrilling when the lights on the modem stayed lit, meaning that the connection did go through, then the wait to see the text on the screen. Now that was a cheap thrill.


____ One problem I had, was that the local Telco switch was slow and my computer and the modem could dial faster than the switch could handle. Lots of wrong numbers. I learned to put spaces between the numbers. The better part was that you called the web server you wanted to visit, not an ISP. Whats this www stuff??

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Benjamin Franklin,

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Icon 1 posted April 12, 2010 06:09      Profile for spungo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
I learned a bit ago that `screen` can actually do this if you point to your terminal device - i.e. /dev/ttyS0.

Google points to this as one post on the matter:
http://pthree.org/2010/03/23/connecting-to-serial-null-modems-with-gnu-screen/

I have this pretty fresh in my mind as I used it on my MacBook the other day with a USB serial adapter...which is awesome as I don't have to install any garbage!

Awesome link, dude! I was not aware of this functionality -- it just might turn out to be quite useful. Thanks, Buddy! [Smile]

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Icon 1 posted April 15, 2010 18:32      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
____ Thanks to all whom offered help, I now have both VFOs completed the receiver is completed and I am in the process of debug. Then to build a cabinet to house the circuit boards and tidy them up. I may have to buy a new prescaler as this one may have been smoked (by me), or the input diodes on the Frequency Counter.

____ Heres what the displays look like.

http://www.pongrance.com/

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